Gary Palmer5:57 PM
Too Christmas all fed up with Christmas
Just getting a drink
Chris Moyer6:31 PM
Just saw this for people who have not yet heard: https://www.facebook.com/groups/shinmemorial
Ian Jempson6:32 PM
that was quite a shock to hear about Shin
Adatasol6:37 PM
@jul or @Gary how do you do the cool blue title at the bottom of your screen ? 
Johan Hedman6:37 PM
Very sorry to read about Shin
Gary Palmer6:39 PM
We also ask that you only unmute your mike when speaking and mute again afterwards.
Code-J FileMaker6:39 PM
Here's the quiz: https://quizglobal.com/playquiz/FMBug%20NY%202021%20Quiz
Robin Penfold6:53 PM
Thanks for that - interesting stuff
John Renfrew6:54 PM
https://github.com/bharlow/fm-webdirect-custom
Robert Naud7:15 PM
I believe Wim's sidekick on the Zabix devcon session was Mislav Kos.
John Renfrew7:15 PM
https://github.com/soliantconsulting/FileMaker-Server-Zabbix-Templates
Johan Hedman7:15 PM
Thanks John R
Robin Penfold7:19 PM
Thanks Gary, insightful
Kieran Saunders7:20 PM
Thanks Gary really interesting to get a snapshot of your year
John Renfrew7:23 PM
https://www.productivecomputing.com/blog/taking-out-the-cache-the-hidden-gem-of-filemaker-troubleshooting/
Robert Naud7:23 PM
https://www.soliantconsulting.com/blog/filemaker-sharing-locks-feature-flags/
Christian Schmitz7:24 PM
~/Library/Caches/FileMaker/DBCache
Chris Moyer7:28 PM
Sadly, Dan has no strong feelings on this topic
Christian Schmitz7:28 PM
C:\Users\Christian\AppData\Local\Temp\FileMaker and there DBCache folder
Code-J FileMaker7:29 PM
Apologies Chris and Heidi - I should have said that you prompted Dan to get in touch with me!
Chris Moyer7:29 PM
np
Heidi Porter7:31 PM
Stiill recording? 
Or should this not be, for candor?
John Renfrew7:32 PM
presumably Gary can edit out....
Code-J FileMaker7:32 PM
Gary can confirm but I should think so - I'll open the question
Michael White7:33 PM
I would appreciate the opportunity to learn more about the perceived issues
Johan Hedman7:34 PM
Keep recording. Delete parts that might upset Claris
Michael White7:34 PM
My issue is that they should be "Mobile first " rather than "Cloud First"
Christian Schmitz7:34 PM
Gary Palmer may need to cut away the discussion about recording from the recording.
Storganise Ltd7:45 PM
What are the "Negative connotations" of the FileMaker brand? 
Code-J FileMaker7:46 PM
A big one is "FileMaker is just toy software". You must have come across that!
Michael White7:47 PM
When we discuss our solutions we do not mention Filemaker we only leverage the link to Apple, that wins in th emarket
Storganise Ltd7:47 PM
No, having worked on an enterprise system in Johnson & Johnson, as well as countless small-businesses, FileMaker has always been seen by my clients as a trusted brand
Michael White7:48 PM
Bt for people who have no knowledge of FM we rely upon the Apple connection 
Storganise Ltd7:49 PM
I tend to underplay that as a lot of my prospective clients are PC users! I can see the reasoning though.
Code-J FileMaker7:49 PM
That's partly the problem - those who use it are loyal and impressed, but those who say do a web search when they come across it don't see it as rated as a serious contender.
Michael White7:49 PM
A huge problem is that FM GO is only IOS that means we look for other Script solutions and do NOT use FM GO - write once use many times 
Gary Palmer7:49 PM
https://www.claris.com/partners/find-a-partner/
Nicolai Kant7:50 PM
and you can search by country
Adatasol7:50 PM
email addresses of contacts aren't there.
Gary Palmer7:50 PM
Yep
Storganise Ltd7:50 PM
Jul - yes, I see. Michael - I agree with that, hence my demo ;0)
Gary Palmer7:51 PM
Agreed you need to go to each site and get their contact details.
Michael White7:52 PM
Hi Jul. I missed your demo, lets meet
Adatasol7:53 PM
The petition has a feature allowing users to add other users for review / invitation.  Hoping it will snowball.
Michael White7:54 PM
We are  solution provider FBA etc, but the petition might include more tech architecture IMHO
Adatasol7:55 PM
If you want an invite, please email me at danw@adatasol.com thanks!
Code-J FileMaker7:56 PM
Michael - suggest you email me after the meeting at mail.codej@gmail.com
Egbert8:00 PM
https://qwasar.io
Michael White8:07 PM
Sustainability and the size of the FM/Cl;aris eco system community is definitely a worry to new clients - so we do not always declare our supply chain for that reason
Tony White8:08 PM
Big fan of bread and butter features to build the FileMaker marketplace.
Just in case you have not seen this drop
https://twitter.com/tonywhitelive/status/1344009415528165386
Tony White8:14 PM
Market share attract developers.
Developers build Market share.
Supply and Demand.
Christian Schmitz8:15 PM
Claris could get help from Apple. Like having FileMaker installed on all demo Macs there. Sessions in the shops for staff there to present and maybe connect the FMPs to a demo server with sample databases to work on.
John Renfrew8:16 PM
@christian it used to be...
Michael White8:16 PM
WE bring clever people who have ambition and intelligence but no experience :the best I have came from Primark, another came from Sainsburies: total success and very productive 
Round people don't know about FM/Claris, that is my job
Young
John Renfrew8:17 PM
@jordan - that is just for you... some of us can service the 'users' who have lower (not unreasonable) budget. This product HAS a space in the small end of SME
Storganise Ltd8:18 PM
Agreed, John. 90% of my clients are on 5-user on-prem licences
Michael White8:19 PM
Boris Johnson announces a total lockdown : just as well I am currently in the South of France
Code-J FileMaker8:20 PM
It was clearly signalled @michael - lucky you!
Michael White8:21 PM
It will come to the South of France too - its just a question of time frankly
I remember coming to FMBUG in Brighton around March Time - seems like years ago
Christian Schmitz8:22 PM
Someone knows new address of Claris office?
Code-J FileMaker8:22 PM
@michael it does - let's hope we can go in person again before too long
Tony White8:24 PM
Technical marketing?
Johan Hedman8:24 PM
Thank you @jordan for all that information
Kieran Saunders8:24 PM
Thanks Jordan
Akis Papadopoulos8:24 PM
thanks Jordan
that kind of info was missing from our end in general in the past
Code-J FileMaker8:25 PM
Good to have that feedback @Jordan
Michael White8:25 PM
IT people are NOT our target : we only talk to Business owners and managers : IT people don't get it
IT people only know about sharepoint
Gary Palmer8:29 PM
Be open I stopped the recording
Michael White8:29 PM
@Tony White - totally agree
Akis Papadopoulos8:30 PM
Gary if you did not had FileMaker and instead had SAP would your company be in the same position at this moment?
Michael White8:31 PM
SAP does the job, but not at this price point 
Akis Papadopoulos8:31 PM
in my company SAP had initial budget of 7 digit million, now its multiple of that, and its not finished
Egbert8:31 PM
Have to leave now. Thanks for sharing all your thougths. Stay safe and see you soon!
Michael White8:31 PM
FM Developers can always say yes
John Renfrew8:32 PM
good to see you @egbert
Code-J FileMaker8:32 PM
Thank for coming Egbert
Adatasol8:33 PM
RE: Petition: One more ping: If you want an invite, please email me at danw@adatasol.com thanks!
Michael White8:34 PM
We do not sell `fm well sell the solution FM is hardy discussed unless forced to disclose the supply chain
Code-J FileMaker8:34 PM
That's a fair point @michael
Michael White8:34 PM
Filemaker is a supplier it is NOT the solution
Tony White8:38 PM
AirTable compare video
https://twitter.com/tonywhitelive/status/1338164938435653633
Storganise Ltd8:38 PM
I have to leave and get my tea! Thanks for a very interesting discussion one and all. See you all at the next one. James
Robin Penfold8:40 PM
Thanks Storganise - good presentation
Michael White8:40 PM
Putting FM on every Mac is a no brainer - why don't they do it? it reminds me of cards? something in 1990 /. what was it called? forgotten , that was lo-code and it worked 
Tony White8:41 PM
http://twdesigns.com/resources/documentation/f/filemaker-12-windowing-functions-and-script-steps/
Chris Moyer8:41 PM
Here's a time-coded link to specifically the AirTable portion of the presentation: https://youtu.be/aqRvXrzpOaU?t=5210
Michael White8:52 PM
Short term targets will always counsel against the free teir which is a long term strategy
which means Claris have short term targets : shame
Tony White8:53 PM
Seems like a Freemium strategy could help.
Michael White8:54 PM
Apple always have a long term horizon when it comes to investments : so the C
Claris BOGOF does not seem to sit well in the Apple frabternity
Ian Jempson8:55 PM
well Brad is getting compensated with Apple stock options so he would be keen on Apple!
Michael White8:55 PM
There is cognitive dissonance when it comes to Class inside Apple
Claris
Christian Schmitz8:55 PM
I would love to buy Claris shares, if they would go public
Michael White8:56 PM
Better buy Apps shares : with the Apple Silicon the twill go vertical : no doubt in my mind
apple shares
Adatasol8:58 PM
I've got to go guys !  Thanks for the time today!  Appreciate it !
Code-J FileMaker8:58 PM
Thanks Dan.
John Renfrew8:58 PM
Thanks @dan
Michael White8:59 PM
One hour ahead here so will turn in soon: see you guys next time 
Gary Palmer8:59 PM
https://www.gartner.com/reviews/market/enterprise-low-code-application-platform
Code-J FileMaker8:59 PM
Thanks @Michael enjoy your freedom whilst you can!
Code-J FileMaker9:02 PM
Quiz results - 6 people took part. All know who owns Claris and the president. Much more variation with the other Qs. Let me know if you want more info. Quiz will remain up for a while.
Going to break in soon andopen the Virtual Bar…
Code-J FileMaker9:03 PM
Thanks to all who have attended.
Jordan Watson9:04 PM
My favourite TV advert for a piece of software - https://www.ispot.tv/ad/7Duj/workday
Gary Palmer9:04 PM
Agree think we have merged into the VBar
@Joedan,  Agree great ad.
Nicolai Kant9:08 PM
going to grab some beers
Code-J FileMaker9:09 PM
Going for refreshments for a moment…
Christian Schmitz9:10 PM
Good night 
Tony White9:12 PM
FileMaker is more Fun. That is a Fact...
A Fun FileMaker Fact
Gary Palmer9:20 PM
After 20 mins searching this is the only link to mention Claris:
https://www.g2.com/categories/low-code-development-platforms
Did Claris Pay to get on this as only place mentioned?
Heidi Porter9:29 PM
Here: https://www.sosimplesoftware.com/products/fmgateway-for-zapier/
zapier FM connector
Jordan Watson9:29 PM
Thanks!!
Heidi Porter9:29 PM
request it to maybe get it listed on Zapier
Tony White9:29 PM
It was good to "see" everyone. Gotta run. Thanks all.
Damon Casey9:42 PM
Good night all, thanks for the meeting